Virologe Hendrik Streeck im Interview „Wir waren in Bonn erfolgreich in der Eindämmung des Virus“
Exklusiv | Bonn · Eine zweite Coronavirus-Welle sieht der Bonner Virologe Hendrik Streeck derzeit als nicht wahrscheinlich an. Er warnt im GA-Interview dennoch vor lokalen Ausbrüchen, die immer wieder passieren können.

Der Bonner Virologe Hendrik Streeck gilt weltweit als einer der erfahrensten Wissenschaftler, wenn es um das neuartige Coronavirus geht.
Foto: dpa/Federico GambariniEs gibt derzeit zwei Wissenschaftler, auf die die ganze Republik während der Corona-Pandemie blickt: Den Berliner Christian Drosten und den Bonner Hendrik Streeck. Letzterer hat sich auch international einen Ruf erarbeitet, vor allem durch seine Vor-Ort-Studie im Nordrhein-Westfälischen Heinsberg. In Deutschland geriet er dafür aber auch in die Kritik. Mit dem GA sprach er darüber, wie das sein öffentliches Verhalten verändert hat, was er künftig in Bonn erforschen will und warum die aktuell belegten Intensivbetten derzeit die verlässlichste Kenngröße sind.
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